Manchester United (zbiorczy) (cz.2) - Strona 517

[smurano]

Ze składem rzeczywiście może być różnie. Nie zdziwie sie jak zagramy 4-3-3 z Roo biegającym po skrzdle i Parkiem/Giggsem wspomagającym środek. Jakoś to Ferg poustwia że bedzie funkcjonować (oby ). Ciekawi mnie tylko co bedzie dalej z Andersonem, ten jak wiadomo znowu grzeje ławe od jakiegoś czasu.

[Mikkel]

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/ander ... 5.html#GB1

Bez przesady że nic nie gra, dla niego to i tak niesamowity skok w porównaniu do poprzedniego sezonu. A będzie grać coraz więcej. Ostatnio fakt, dostaje trochę mniej szans ale nie ma co wybrzydzać. Był czołową postacią początku i środka sezonu, nikt z niego nie zrezygnuje na koniec. Wracając do meczu, Giggs to bardziej prawdopodobna możliwość. Oprócz doświadczenia to Park wraca na bardzo ważny mecz. Obstawiam ławkę. A sam mecz United muszą wygrać, bo później łatwiejszych spotkań nie będzie. Wyjazdy na Anfield, Emirates, Stamford. Tam pewnie straty punktów będą spore, u siebie trzeba punktować jeśli się myśli o mistrzu. Strasznie się stałem negatywnie nastawiony po ostatnim meczu

[red85]

Co by nie było, że tylko kibice United bardzo wysoko cenią Scholesy'ego. Xavi już kiedyś wspominał jak wysoko ceni legendę United, ale teraz poszedł jeszcze krok dalej A tak poza tym kilka trafnych spostrzeżeń rozgrywającego Barcy nt brytyjskiego futbolu.

Xavi Hernandez had given a man-of-the-match performance against Germany, and Spain were two minutes from reaching the World Cup final when the referee in last year’s semi-final asked him if he could have his shirt after the game. ‘If you blow the whistle a minute early, it’s yours,’ he replied.

On the verge of reaching the pinnacle of his career, the final where he would complete his full house of major honours, the sorcerer supreme of Barcelona and Spain’s magical midfields, the most unassuming of world beaters, still wasn’t taking things too seriously.

Listening to him talk about his English football heroes ahead of next week’s visit to London, it’s obvious the sport he loves and demystifies so eloquently is still, first and foremost, just a game to him — one which he and his pals just happen to play better than anybody else in the world.

His face lights up first when he is told the story of Wayne Rooney getting up from his couch to give Barca a one-man standing ovation in his living room as he watched them beat Real Madrid 5-0 last November, and then when he reels off the names of his current Premier League favourites.

‘Rooney, Scholes, Cesc (Fabregas), Nasri and Giggs,’ he says, adding: ‘I was also a big fan of John Barnes, Chris Waddle and Matt Le Tissier. And although it is a different style, I liked the Paul Ince and Roy Keane partnership Manchester United had. They would have been my team had I moved to England.’

Paul Scholes receives special praise: ‘In the last 15 to 20 years the best central midfielder that I have seen — the most complete — is Scholes. I have spoken with Xabi Alonso about this many times. Scholes is a spectacular player who has everything.

‘He can play the final pass, he can score, he is strong, he never gets knocked off the ball and he doesn’t give possession away. If he had been Spanish then maybe he would have been valued more.’

Xavi won the World Cup aged 30, one year older than Scholes when he retired from international football feeling undervalued by the then England coach Sven Goran Eriksson.

So why is the pass master, so revered in Spain, often discarded in England? For Xavi it starts in the stands with the difference between English and Spanish football culture.

‘You are a nation of warriors,’ he says. ‘If I go to Liverpool’s ground and someone puts the ball into the area and Carragher hammers it out of play then the fans applaud. In the Nou Camp you would never be applauded for that.

‘It’s a different culture that values different things. Here if they see you are afraid when you are in possession then you get whistled. It’s the world in reverse.

‘I do see it changing slightly. Before, the typical No 9 in England was a Crouch or a Heskey and it was a long ball from the back from a Terry or a Carragher and nothing in between.’

So a shift in emphasis is needed but it shouldn’t come completely at the expense of the traditional uncompromising English centre half, says Xavi.

‘I don’t want to be misunderstood. I have huge admiration for both Terry and Carragher. We have (Carles) Puyol here. Technically he is not the best player in the squad but he is a great defender. Players like Terry and Carragher are very necessary but they have to adapt to the team as opposed to the team adapting to them. In some ways what these players do has even more merit because to me it comes naturally.

‘For Iniesta, Messi and Rooney it comes naturally, but for them it is much more difficult to lift the head and play a pass. But they should have to adapt to the more technically gifted players, not the other way around.’

A ‘skill -over- strength’ revolution is mooted every time England fail at a World Cup, but Xavi says a radical overhaul of values would mean nothing unless it started at kids’ level.

‘You have to find the players who have the technical ability right from the off as Barcelona do,’ he says.

‘Other teams look for young players who are tall, big and strong. There are teams here in Catalunya who at the under 10s level will beat Barca’s under 10s.

‘But from that Barca under 10s team you will end up getting three footballers and from the under 10s of the other team not even one will make it. They are already thinking about winning instead of unearthing the technically gifted players which is Barcelona’s priority.

‘You spot a youngster who can lift his head and play a first-time pass and you think, “He’s worth something, let’s have him come and train with us”.’

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... years.html

[Fishbone]

To już pewne. Manchester United zostanie przejęty przez Qatar Holdings, spółkę związaną z katarską rodziną królewską. Kwota transakcji ma wynieść 1,6 mld funtów! Według doniesień brytyjskich mediów do dopięcia pozostały już "tylko szczegóły". Znienawidzoną na Old Trafford rodzinę Glazerów zastąpią Katarczycy.

Odejście Glazerów będzie znakomitą dla kibiców "Czerwonych Diabłów", którzy od długiego czasu protestowali przeciwko Amerykańskim właścicielom.

Malcolm Glazer i jego synowie również nie będą mieli powodów do narzekań. W lecie 2005 roku zapłacili za United 790 milionów funtów, po niespełna sześciu latach sprzedają klub z ponad dwukrotnym przebiciem.

W sobotę podopieczni Aleksa Fergusona zmierzą się w derbowym meczu z Manchesterem City, którego właścicielami również są arabscy inwestorzy.

Źródło: wp.pl

[Mikkel]

Nie wiem czy się cieszyć czy płakać. To że Glazerowie nie byli idealni nowością nie jest, ale z drugiej strony zmienianie United w maszynkę do robienia rekordowych transferów nie do końca mi się podoba. Wiadomo, nie każde szejki muszą dawać kasę, np . Portsmouth o ile się nie mylę też miało właściciela z EA a skończyło się spadkiem, bez prawie żadnych transferów. Mam nadzieje że Fergi przypilnuje żeby United nie stało się zabawką w rękach nowych właścicieli, bo póki co więcej obaw niż radości. Nie zawsze trawa po drugiej stronie jest bardziej zielona. Czekamy na jakieś oficjalne informacje, wywiad, plany, cokolwiek. Dobrze że jeśli to okaże się prawdą , to długi pójdą w niepamięć. Nie jestem przeciwnikiem przejęcia, tylko boje się jakie plany mają na przyszłość nowi, potencjalni właściciele.

[smurano]

Ściema. Nie czytajcie za dużo witrualnej-polski. Dobra rada.

[majer13]

Ba nawet jak nie ściema to nie będziemy "maszynką do nabijania rekordów transferowych" i to na 100%. Jest jeden prosty powód który to po prostu uniemożliwia - sir Alex Ferguson, nawet jak odejdzie z posady menadżera to i tak będzie w klubie na jakiejś ugruntowanej pozycji nie dopuszczając do bicia tych rekordów Poza tym każdy wie że jak Alex odejdzie to przyjdzie Mou

[Mikkel]

Glazerowie zaprzeczyli chęci sprzedaży United, jednak szkoda. Ale ciężko im się dziwić, nie robią tego błedu co Wąski, nie urywają jaj złotej kurze
A środek obrony to już pewniak, Fergi stawia na Smallinga. Jest dobrze, parę ładnych występów w tym sezonie miał. Jestem przekonany że lepiej sobie poradzi niż Brown, jakby grał. Koło Vidica Cris zawsze wyglądał bardzo pewnie.

[Loker]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/footbal ... 394395.stm

Jest oficjalne dementi, ogarnijcie się.
Ot medialna papka przed meczem z City.

[red85]

Smutne jest to jak Brown kończy przygodę z United(bo zapewne do tego dojdzie po sezonie). Uwielbiam oglądać go na boisku. Walecznością i miłością do klubu myślę, że nie ustępuje Nevillowi. Jak Fergie stawiał na niego regularnie to Wes mało kiedy zawodził.

[Kamil232]

no i entuzjastycznie wyraził się o Scholsie, solidarność małych

Z innego tematu, ale żeby nie zaśmiecać...Nie on jeden.

Former France Star Zinedine Zidane: I Regret Not Playing With Manchester United Star Paul Scholes
Legendary midfielder believes Englishman is in 'class of his own'
By Anthony Sciarrino
Aug 22, 2010 9:30:00 AM

Zinedine Zidane admits that one of the biggest regrets of his career is not getting the chance to play with Manchester United midfielder Paul Scholes.

England manager Fabio Capello is going to try and tempt the 35-year-old Red Devils star to come out of his six-year international retirement to join the Three Lions for Euro 2012 after failing to get him to return for the World Cup this summer.

Zidane praised Scholes as one of the finest players that he competed against in his career, and states that he laments not having been able to play alongside the Englishman.

“It’s only natural to want to select your best players and there is no doubt for me that Paul Scholes is still in a class of his own,” Zidane told The Mirror.

“He’s almost untouchable in what he does. I never tire of watching him play. You rarely come across the complete footballer, but Scholes is as close to it as you can get.

“One of my regrets is that the opportunity to play alongside him never presented itself during my career.”

The France legend praised Scholes for the way in which he made it difficult for opposition players on the pitch.

“He was an extremely tough opponent to play against. You didn’t get any time on the ball when he was around. He would close you down and make your life terribly uncomfortable.

“He is the type of player you want on your side, not in opposition because he could do so much damage.

“He is very gifted. He makes the game look easy because he’s so much natural ability.”

Scholes has stated that he regrets not joining England in South Africa, but Zidane, who returned from retirement to lead France to the 2006 World Cup final, believes that the Englishman must not think about that now.

“Life is full of regrets, but it doesn’t pay to look back.

“When I returned I was given lots of time to consider my position. I’m not sure he was afforded the same luxury.”

http://www.goal.com/en/news/9/england/2 ... aying-with

“Paul Scholes would have been one of my first choices for putting together a great team - that goes to show how highly I have always rated him. He would have been one of the first players I’d have bought, given the chance”

Marcello Lippi

Arsene Wenger believes Cesc Fabregas can be the next Paul Scholes.
The previous occupier of the Arsenal No 4 shirt - Patrick Vieira - claims Scholes is the best player he has ever faced.

Fabregas, aged 20, has scored four goals in six games as the Gunners have moved up to second place in the Premier League and qualified for the group stages of the Champions League.
And Wenger told the Ham & High newspaper: "He has a lot of characteristics of Scholes, I think.

"Frame, intelligence in the game, passing ability, knowing when to go in the box."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... z1Dc2e6bmc

Micah Richards : "He's always in the right position, always seems to be at the end of the box when the ball drops in. The complete midfielder - when he's fit, he's the best. Some go missing but he's in the right place at the right time. He's my favourite player of all-time, unbelievable. If you give him a chance it's a goal, isn't it?"

Glenn Hoddle : "There isn’t a player of his mould anywhere else in the world."

Terry Venables : "He’s the best one- or two-touch passer in the country. He sees the game unlike any other player."

Alan Shearer : "If you ask footballers to pick out the player they most admire, so many of them will pick Paul Scholes. He can tackle, and his passing and shooting is of the highest level. He’s the most consistent and naturally gifted player we’ve had for a long, long time."

Eidur Gudjohnsen : "I'm more an admirer of Paul Scholes than I am of Ronaldo. Ronaldo is a fantastic player, but he has 10 other great players around him every week...Scholes is one of the most complete footballers I've ever seen. His one-touch play is phenomenal. Whenever I have played against him, I never felt I could get close to him."

Edgar Davids : ""Every one of us (midfielders) is just trying to become as good as him. Everyone can learn from Paul Scholes."

Edgar Davids : "I'm not the best, Paul Scholes is."

Tony Adams : "I really rate Paul Scholes, because he hasn't got the high profile of many of the Manchester United players, he doesn't get too much attention, but he is one very good player. He is an intelligent player, he works hard and he scores some great goals. He is not flamboyant and is a quiet lad off the pitch but he is a tremendous asset to Manchester United and to England. He has already got my vote as player of the year."

Cesc Fabregas : "He is the one whose level I aspire to. He is the best player in the Premier League."

Patrick Vieira : "The player in the Premiership I admire most? Easy - Scholes."

Thierry Henry : "I can't understand why Scholes has never won the player of the year award. He should have won it long ago. Maybe it's because he doesn't seek the limelight like some of the other 'stars'."

Zinedine Zidane : "My toughest opponent? Scholes of Manchester. He is the complete midfielder."

Zinedine Zidane : "Scholes is undoubtedly the best midfielder of his generation."

Sam Allardyce : "There is not a better midfield player in the world."

Kevin Keegan : "What United have got that Chelsea haven't is Paul Scholes. I think he is different to anything else in English football."

Marcello Lippi : "Paul Scholes would have been one of my first choices for putting together a great team - that goes to show how highly I have always rated him. Scholes is a player I have always liked, because he combines great talent and technical ability with mobility, determination and a superb shot. He is an all-round midfielder who possesses character and quality in abundance. In my opinion, he's been one of the most important players for United under Sir Alex."

Ray Wilkins : "I'm saddened because I think we as spectators, not only in this country but right through out Europe and the rest of the World, will be missing one hell of a footballer."

Gordon Strachan : "Paul Scholes has been the best England midfield player for 30-odd years. You'd probably have to go back to Bobby Charlton to find someone who could do as much as Scholes. When the ball arrives at his feet he could tell you where every player on that pitch is at that moment. His awareness is superb."

Veron while at Chelsea being asked in an interview who's the best english player : "Paul Scholes."

Peter Schmeichel : "People say he is a great player, but you have to define what a great player is, For me, it is a player who has a bottom level that means his worst performance is not noticed.If he is having a bad game, a team-mate might feel Paul Scholes is not quite on his game, but a spectator wouldn't notice. Scholes, of all the players I have played with, has the highest bottom level. His reading of the game is unsurpassed.He has an eye for a pass, for what the play or the game needs at that precise moment, that I have never seen anyone else have. He controls and distributes the play and the game better than anyone I have ever seen."

Laurent Blanc : "Scholes is the best English player. Intelligence, technique, strength... all the attributes are there. At Manchester United I saw what he could do on the training field. Phew!"

David Beckham said that, among his teammates at Real Madrid, which included Zinedine Zidane, Raúl, Ronaldo, Luís Figo and Roberto Carlos, Scholes was the most admired opponent : "He's always one of those people others talk about. Even playing at Real Madrid, the players always say to me 'what's he like'? They respect him as a footballer, and to have that respect from some

Genialny gracz.

Gdybym miał 100 mln euro na transfery, to bym wydał to na to, żeby odmłodzić o 15 lat Scholesa i Giggsa

[red85]

Ktoś się tutaj śmiał ostatnio z tego ile zarabia O'Shea. Te 45 minut w jego wykonaniu są nawet więcej warte niż 80k

Dobrze to wyląda, ale nie ma co zapeszać. Walczymy dalej

[Arwin]

Ktoś się tutaj śmiał ostatnio z tego ile zarabia O'Shea. Te 45 minut w jego wykonaniu są nawet więcej warte niż 80k

Dobrze to wyląda, ale nie ma co zapeszać. Walczymy dalej

Smalling też dzisiaj bardzo pewny punkt obrony. Zdziwił mnie brak Berby na boisku, jak on się musi czuć - z Arsenalem nie grać, z City nie grać

[joedoe]

Do przerwy 1:0, ale moim zdaniem nie do końca zasłużyliście na prowadzenie. Gdyby Silva trafił na początku meczu mogłoby być naprawdę kiepsko dla United. Mimo prowadzenia mecz jest całkowicie otwarty, MC z pewnością stać dziś na wyrównanie. Podoba mi się dzisiaj Giggs i Nani, ten drugi nie tylko za bramkę. Fajnie chodzą, obydwaj wnoszą dużo życia w poczynania United. Po drugiej stronie dobrze prezentuje się Silva, odnoszę wrażenie, że partnerzy nie zawsze za nim nadążają. Nie wiem jak wy, ale mi się wydaje, że niektórzy w drużynie Manciniego to chyba z siłowni nie wychodzą. Richards i Toure wyglądają jak atleci, swoja drogą obydwaj grają dziś dobre spotkanie.
Na minus: postawa Rooneya i Teveza. Rozczarowują, może zobaczymy w drugiej części od początku Dzeko?

Czy i wam się wydawało, że Kuszczak rozmawiał przez telefon na ławce?

[muszeq]

Nie na ławce tylko na trybunach.